It too is just claims and hopes of how CLO2 might work nothing shoiwing that it does. People on this list are willing to listen to an intelligent explanation. minutes. I think I m more amazed with DMSO, than MMS. Hi Particularly bee pollen, (since 1980). After that vomit, I fell so exhausted but I know I survived. The basics: On this basis Jim Humble made his claims first. You even emphasize the so-called dangers of chlorine dioxide by quoting the scientific findings of an MMS proponent. And it keeps the transplant organs live for transplant. Smokings OK for several years. those two foods saved my life when withdrawing from those drugs, I could not eat properly. Just because I am concerned about the possible effects of long-term use of a known toxin CLO2, you and others choose to catageorize me as the other. The extent of thyroid suppression was dose dependent in each individual monkey, and was reversible after cessation of exposure Here are a couple tidbits from the warning incase you dont feel like clicking the link. In June 2015, the FDA received a report from a parent who reported using MMS to help treat their daughters flu. Therefore CLO2 destroys your normal molecules, and therefore kills your cells. I havent had time. I may have put doubt in your mind. Theres nothing else to say Palpable. How about an herb, like Kava Kava? WebInteresting facts and data about Jim Humble: life expectancy, age, death date, gender, popularity, net worth, location, social media outreach, biography, and more Fun Facts and A: National negligence of what theyve done for a long time.
see below for more info, https://ufospotlight.wordpress.com/2020/02/13/chinese-intelligence-officer-reveals-true-magnitude-of-chinas-coronavirus-crisis/. So to say CLO2 works by tranferring its electrons to positively charged ions is simply stating it chemically reacts. But the main thing is MMS and that isnt a matter of agreement or disagreement, it is a matter of demonstrated facts. I just hope that i can make other people think twice before believing Jims and your fantastic claims. I also agree with the warnings that you must be well hydrated in order to minimize the unpleasant side effects of toxins released by dying pathogens.
QUOTE FROM ARTICLE: palpy, how is saying that something is tolerable orally at effective concentrations mean it is toxic?? But now, along with my retirement, Mark Grenon is head of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing. Ive previously thrown up my supper from smoking a cigarette (not on MMS then). Your unwillingness to be PRESENT with the people who see some merits in MMS, and in the REASONS that they do whether misguided in your opinion or not is what I found so unpalpable. EXACTLY MMS cannot discriminate between healthy and unhealthy cells.
still, i KNOW how unsafe the approved alternatives to mms are, so ill go with the odds. On April 30, the government asked a judge to hold Genesis and its leaders in contempt, after alleging in court documents that Grenon directed an undercover FDA investigator a few days prior by email on how to obtain MMS through an alternate sourcea Genesis affiliate known as Bob the Plumberas the company had temporarily stopped letting consumers obtain the product through its website. It is jim humble and others that are talking down by making up half-truths, and out right falsehoods. DO NOT BLINDLY BELIEVE THE SITE YOU CAN MAKE MMS YOURSELF FOR VERY LITTLE OUTLAY. And using chlorine and oxygen (oxidizers) to do it! 2) Oxidation: Please find some literature on how pathogens are oxidized in a different way than our cells.
Couri D, Abdel-Rahman MS, Bull RJ. Do you want to talk science or not? To his own surprise it worked which led him on a life-long pursuit to perfect and communicate this discovery. Hi Canadian Farmgirl.
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palpable (who works for the death merchants? However what is true, is true, and as you say in your last post how MMS is harmful to normal living cells, without any evidence to back up your claim, That may not be true.You think, you maybe jumping the gun here a little bit? Pharma drugs cause more deaths than anything else! We disagree on the propsed mechanisms of MMS. Cant wait to see my doctors response when i walk into his office next.. guarantee he will be shocked. and who would try anything without doing a reasonable risk/benefit assesment first? ME: One problem is that this particular article is 21 years old. Best Match Powered by Whitepages Premium AGE 70s Jim Warren Humble Houghton Lake, MI Aliases James Warren Humble View Full Report Addresses E Houghton Lake Dr, Houghton Lake, MI
You state 1)FACT: CLO2, or any other oxidizer, will react with infectious microbes molecules the same as does with our normal molecules. Powered by consumers. Side effects should no be ignored.
And my Quantum Biofeedback Practitioner says the Chronic Fatigue Virus that we have had such a hard time getting rid of through herbs and homeopathics, is for the FIRST time, resonating within normal range. Adverse event reports filed with the agency by consumers and healthcare professionals have linked the ingestion of MMS to serious health problems, including acute liver failure and even death. After all I am probably the one person in the world who should state it. By Using the same oxidizers as they use on pathogens. my experience with mms comes with a healthy dose of skepticism.
We recommend conducting double-blind studies and delving into studies of toxicological safety and therapeutic efficacy of chlorine dioxide in pathologies of epidemiological impact in the near future. And this is just my first question.I have a second question. I interviewed Jim Humble about his work and the Coronavirus. I know of people WITH AIDS who have turned it around using MMS, where nothing else worked. Now that I think about it, Mr. Nash is showing an amazing method of attack. in the morning my swelling was reduced and i could open my mouth about 1/3 of the way. You can do your own research, but what Id like to see from MMS users is a forum posting of their Broda Barnes Axillary (underarm) Temperature Test, before and after using MMS. As far as using MMS externally, well many products can be applied externally, directly on the damaged tissue, and yet should not be used internally. As far as credentials? Ive taken the relevant sections of each abstract to make it simple for youall. Hey S, its basic biology as Iv explained 20 times. Got any more?
Try arguing that. I beg to differ that mms reacts with normal tissue as i use it on my open skin and orally aswell as in higher strenghs as mouth rinse. MMS is an oxidizer, it kills pathogens and destroys poisons. MORE the 3 following amino acids are essential to human and bacterial life. However if your did read my first posts, I say I am a beiever in use it if it works.
HOW CAN AN OXIDIZING AGENT ATTACK A MICROBES MOLECULES AND NOT ATTCK OUR MOLECULES? As always, Im waiting for a rebuttal to my original arguments: So far the mechanism, how this work is not explained. Which means CLO2 oxidizes our tissues. This was long, but I felt I needed the naysayers to get the picture. It has more holes in it than the one about CLO2 killing only anaerobic organisms (and the wrong assertion that only anaerobic organisms are bad). when the Clindamycin produced side effects, my doctor precribed other drugs [ with equally nasty side effects ].. i left his office.. picked up my presciptions and went home and ordered the MMS. Homeopathic medicines have none of the original substance, only its vibration. Copyright September 6, 2007 Around the time of the report, Genesis and Humble generated substantial national media attention. Jim Humble, 56, passed away March 20, 2008, at his home in Livingston, after a two year battle with cancer. substantiate the validity of your claims. In the process of throwing the first flame by calling my site BS and claiming that I am directly or indirectly funded by Big Pharma which is a ridiculous statement.
And it is a false accusation, and Jim should sue this false accuser.
This is what the FDA says about MMS. You havent done that here. James L. Jim Rush, age 74, of Raymond, died Sunday, April 2, 2023, at Walnut Crossing. Maybe he could instead say more about the reasons why there are no clinical trials about MMS. So if Mr Humble is concerned with his credibility regarding MMS (which apparently is the case) it might help him and mankind to provide a 3-phase clinical trial of MMS to show the actual risks, safety and success of this substance. write under a pseudonym and give us no biographical information to
When the FDA issues an import refusal, the shipment must either be destroyed or exported under the supervision of the agency within 90 days of the action.
ME: Guess What? That Stabilised Oxygen or the chlorine it contains significantly improves the efficiency of the two enzymes chloroperoxidase and peroxidase.
Great posts, Lompy. Asking whether America has entered an Orwellian world of doublespeak where outright lies can pass for the truth, Pappas explores what the media doesnt like to talk about: itself.
Where is your reasoning other than an unsubstantiated claim.
Because it is an oxidizer and Oxidizers, oxidize everything.
I tried with all my might to hold that water in. Apologise im tired and bored of your long drawn out unsubtantiated answers which do not provide what you continually request proof. 3) People should have all available information to make descisions concerning their health.
I understand what you are explaining. The bubbling indicates it is oxidizing your now exposed healthy tissues and the hopefully the few microbes hanging around. I'm an investigative journalist with an appetite to cover anything and everything. The state with the most residents by this name is Texas, followed by Colorado and Ohio.Public records for Jim Humble range in age from 40 years old to 95 years old. My concern is what Ive learned about Flouride, Chlorine and Bromine ions displacing the iodine ion in the bodies very important endocrine gland: The thyroid. To defend his total lack of any scientific evidence, he claims a global conspiracy against him by pharmaceutical companies which would be put out of business if his miracle cure was widely disseminated All those positively charged ions, and molecules you writing about, are they I am lucky it was not worse. Imagine a leggo set lots of different types of pieces. (When asked, the FDA wouldnt say whether it had taken action against Humble in the past.). [ still getting it pulled out though], i so appreciate all the evident research people here are doing and i find the thyroid aspect very interesting and worth further consideration You can instead go to the contact section on my website: jimhumble.is where my staff and I will do our best to get back to you. Special thanks go to Jim Humble for his willingness to share his discovery with the world. Also other whole foods like hemp seeds.
Both Berg and Hesslink indicate it appears to be non-toxic, which suggests to me that there is a difference between the way in which healthy tissue and pathogens are oxidized. i posted articles for the sake of the public reading this, and to see if you would provide additional understanding. When evaluating both groups (Control and Experimental) in the laboratories, a difference was found for the values of the parameters PC Reactive on day 7 (p: 0.0001) and DH Lactate (0.0036), with higher scores for the experimental group; Dimero-D on day 7 (p: 0.0194) and on day 14 (p:0.0029) ; difference was found in all parameters. On August 12, 1948, Jim was born in Piqua, Ohio, the oldest of three children of the late James Leonard and Esther Louise (Loy) Rush. He says he discovered that chlorine dioxide quickly eradicates malaria and claims that it has since been found to restore health to people who have autism, cancer, diabetes, hepatitis (A, B, and C), Lyme disease, Parkinsons disease, and more. showed that, in monkeys intubated with a gastric tube, The events are the same no matter the concetration only the number of molcules destroyed changes. 1)That CLO2 can search out and oxidized harmful cells/organisms without also oxidizing your cells/tissues On another thread on your site I have said I hate big pharma, hate most medial practices, and use alternative approaches exclusively in my own practice.
I guess it is bothering me that no one has put your claims to restI I am aware of your comments about pharmaceuticals and medical practices, and that you use alternative approaches in your practice. We only know that she was in a comma. You focus on what you call the impossibilities and fallacies associated with MMS, and if you deign to acknowledge any benefit that its use might bring, you project fear into an unknown future, leaving no room to celebrate some relief in the PRESENT. What do they have to gain by this? Heres the sneaky LIE part: These tissue destroying substances are NOT released into circulation. a cynic knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing oscar wilde. mechanisms described by these Scientists, and how they differ Theres nothing else to say. We also eat alot of healthy food, alot of it from our own gardens, and I buy meat from a friend who raises her chicken and beef in a drug-free, healthy environment. The issue for me, and hopefully for others, has been put to rest. I put 6 drops of MMS in a glass, and as it evaporated I found there was still a lot of Sodium Chlorite, more than would be normal. WebWe have 13 records for Jim Humble ranging in age from 42 years old to 91 years old. The purpose of this article is to propose research. You now have the opportunity to read the first multicenter clinical study carried out in several Latin American countries that clearly demonstrates that chlorine dioxide is a fully effective treatment against COVID-19. Im sure its like getting a new lease on your life. Will excess O2 search out microbes anfd kill them? The test was later computerized and was considered by many to be the most accurate method of determining deficiencies known at the time. I sent him to buy a big jug of Distilled Water for me from the closest store. But I KNOW that the statements that theyve said about MMS arent true. I had also found gold in the jungle, and I could have continued being a prospector. WebJim will continue his humanitarian activities in Africa by going there personally and treating unfortunate victims of some of the worst known diseases in the world. In my opinion there is no prof, that anyone died from MMS, and without definite prof this is is falls accusation.We dont know preexisting conditions,and people selling MMS on their cruse vacations? The inclusion of a company on the list doesnt necessarily prevent it from continuing to sell potentially harmful products. [ avail as .pdf with simple search ]. instilled C102 solution (60 ppm) disappears within a few (An email detailing the incident to the FDA had been sent a year prior, the report said, but no response was received.). And what I wished for the most, my old life back, is really coming true. People have cured themselves of AIDS, cancer, and a host of other conditions that people who you puppet for believe are incurable. You may feel talked down to- but the questions are really simple.
Facts: I have taken appox 40ml in 1 month with no ill effects. i really appreciate reading this threadthanks! What is your opinion on this? Again no mention of the dosage or duration, details somebody of your self given calibur should not have left out if being truely unbiased. I would like to point out that 2 drops that he said his wife had couldnt possibly have caused what he claims.
The same molecules (proteins), built from smaller molecules (amino acids) that all living organisms on planet Earth share. I teach at alternative health care schools, and train a lot of alternative practitioners. I claimed a site linked to here was BS as it only had biased information attacking (for want of a better word) the use of MMS when there is already so much evidence for its use. WHY? If you dont know that MMS works, then whoever it is will just die like they normally would, and you will probably never realize it. Basically they come up with a theory and it is down to others to prove this theory incorrect as it is not proven yet still stands untill proven otherwise. So it reacts with whatever amino acid it bumps into first which are our amino acids. Whether they are found in HIV, or in your liver, or skin, or bone. Drop me an email ( Environ Health Perspect. Please let me tell my story. Acids are denoted H+, called a hydrogen ion. With your above examples in mind.
Palpy has info I totally do not understand.
Despite the warning, the FDA wrote several months later in a follow-up announcement that the product was still being sold online. Oxidizers steal electron from molecules they know no difference between a molecule from a harmful microbe, and a molecule from human cells. i resolved to discontinue the antibiotics and in fact, never opened the new package as the side effects listed in block letters plain scared the hell out of me. This includes parasites, fungi, bacteria and viruses. It is an oxidizer. 2 minutes after I successfully swallowed that water, I exploded from my front end vomiting some grey and yellow stuffs like a pressure sprayer I squirt all the grey matter from my internals everywhere on my clothes, my bed and the rug !! Thats why they are given those names like thiol, or amino acids. More recent data show that ClO2, ClO2- and ClO3- alter the incorporation of 3H-thymidine into the nuclei of various organs of the rat.
What they did find is interesting: Which means MMS damages human cells. Jim Humbles Doctor is stating what I have stated over and over.
Im waiting. They dont do research on rats to come up with the next viagra, or prozac that is to to treat depression, or induce erections in rats. Instead, the feds indicted Louis Daniel Smith, who sold the bleachlike solution through a company called Project Greenlife. Hi palpable This alone places the credibilty of all other claims in doubt. ), The consumer who filed the adverse event report, obtained by CR through a Freedom of Information Act request, wrote that after taking 10 drops of MMS, I developed a racing heartbeat and nausea, which resulted in vomiting of what appeared to be a yellow acid., The FDA didnt take enforcement action related to MMS, though, until January 2009, when the agency issued a warning letter to a company, called True Renewal, over claims it made about Miracle Mineral Supplement, another name for MMS. Jim W Humble currently resides in Cottage Grove, Oregon. Consumer advocates, while acknowledging that the FDA lacks the resources to adequately oversee the marketplace, say that it often takes the agency too long to use all of its legal authority to remove unsafe products and that the case of Genesis underscores systemic issues with the agencys policing of dietary supplements. Im curious what Palpable thinks of this.
The above abstracted prove absolutly nothing. My point was against your point 2 the CI02 @93v opposed to oxygen 1.20v(aprox), sry i really am bored of you. If you experience an adverse event or quality problem with a product, including any related to COVID-19, the FDA says you should file a report through the agencys adverse event reporting program. 7- RBC (red blood cell) counts decrease = anemia, and less oxygen in blood, Subchronic toxicity of chlorine dioxide and related compounds in drinking water in the nonhuman primate. They said..they didnt know.. it was unrelated. WebMaybe 40 is old when you are a kid, but honestly it's no age and so for him to have contributed so much to the acceptance and promotion of country music throughout the world is no mean feat. You tell us that you are an educator and you come up with a bunch of In fact, the worse kind, because a real puppet doesnt have the ability to know better, but you do. When you have evidence instead of scare tactics then please do post your findings.
In his full article he states these are theoretical mechanisms.
We forgot that he was on 6 drops of mms at the time he couldnt get up off the couch.. he thought he was farting when he got this huge amount of diarrhoea that frightened me and off we went to doctor then emergency. Good fortune to you along the way, and with love. I suppose by your argument MMS is exactly the same as Chemotherapy as in it does not discriminate between healthy and unhealthy cells. If you think that is unfeeling, I am sorry. Chlorine dioxide does not look for harmful bacteria and viruses. The reactions of another model system utilizing myeloperoxidase and peroxidase in the leukocytes is shown to increase the activity of this enzyme. Everything given to the argument against is only in scaring people with long chemical thingy doberies stating stuff that is out of context with the other less biased views. But the agencys action wasnt as swift as Hahn made it out to be, according to a Consumer Reports review of FDA filings, court records, and documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. Ill even leave the links in. Thats the whole point. I have used MMS myself. MMS is a scam. My point has yet to be refuted. Jim has been found in 6 states including Montana, California, Colorado, Washington, Oregon.
I know, the docs nearly killed me with their pers! Be happy in that you have done your heart felt duty but understand you are misguided and somewhat off track with your concerns.
What they did find is interesting: Which means MMS damages human cells. Jim Humbles Doctor is stating what I have stated over and over.